Showing posts with label water for gas. Show all posts
Showing posts with label water for gas. Show all posts

Sunday, January 3, 2010

HHO Generators and best Catalyst for max. HHO Gas

What is the best Electrolyte to use in my HHO Dry Cell ?

There are many different electrolytes that CAN work in an electrolysis process, but does that mean they are suitable? NO.
Some common ones considered for hho fuel making application include:
KOH- Potassium Hydroxide- Used in soap making -- Best For hho gas production in HHO Dry Cell Design.
NaOH- Sodium Hydroxide- Lye- Used to open drains!
NaCI- Sodium chloride- Table Salt- Raises blood pressure – DO NOT USE!
NaHCO- Baking Soda- Makes bubbles and poisonous gas– DO NOT USE!
H2SO4- Sulfuric acid- Car battery acid- Makes bad gases and burns! – DO NOT USE!
Vinegar ( 5 to 10% solution of acetic acid ) – DO NOT USE!
Sodium sulphate - DO NOT USE!

We have written two extensive Hubs on the Best Catalyst (electrolyte) to use in your HHO dry cell or other hho generator.
For further information on HHO and electrolyte go read these awesome Hubs.

http://hubpages.com/hub/hho_generator_hho_dry_cell_answers -- Part #1

http://hubpages.com/hub/hho_fuel_hho_Generator
-- part #2

Stop The BS about HHO gas Systems and DIY HHO Generators


Below is a clip from one of those guys trying to sell another "How To" Guide supposedly on building a hydrogen on demand system. I cut the actual company name to cover my butt.
Reading this CRAP ad I can see why people are so skeptical about legitimate hho fuel systems like the complete HHO Dry Cell Kit and other hho generator systems that do what they say they do.(cut fuel consumption and clean up emissions)

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Tuesday, September 15, 2009

Your HHO Dry Cell - Keep It Cool

Increasing Efficiency Of Your HHO Dry Cell

By adding an acid base, or salt to the hho cell's water supply you will drop the electrical resistance of the water.
With a catalyst in the water,it takes fewer amps of electricity to produce the desired amount of HHO gas, since the ions in the water are able
to move more freely.
Potassium hydroxide (KOH) is a popular catalyst for HHO-producing cells.
It is important to make sure the catalyst you're using isn't highly concentrated, for two reasons.
1) Too much catalyst will draw too many amps and cause over heating.
2) Too much catalyst causes some of the mix to boil into your hho gas mix and could damage your inter cooler.

Keep in mind, a properly designed HHO Dry Cell will not need large doses of electrolyte.
Varying amounts are added to the mixture in order to tune the on board-hydrogen on demand system. We recommend a 20 to 1 mix max.
Heat, and electromagnetic fields are also employed to help break down the water, although this technology is usually used by advanced hho experimenters.

Learn all about HHO Dry Cell

Saturday, April 18, 2009

HHO POPULAR MECHANIC BOZOS & HYDROGEN ON DEMAND

Another try by Popular Mechanics to discredit Hydrogen on Demand for your auto or truck

I would suggest that you revise your scientific data concerning Hydrogen on Demand systems in your recent article. HOD is a valid technology, and many patents were issued over the last 20+ years.

Puharich; Henry K. - Method and apparatus for splitting water molecules Patent #4394230 - 1983

Hasebe; Shigeta w/ others - Apparatus for simultaneous generation of oxygen and hydrogen gases Patent # 4747925 - 1988

Meyer; Stanley A. - Method for the production of a fuel gas Patent #4936961 - 1990

Chambers; Stephen Barrie - Method for producing orthohydrogen and/or parahydrogen Patent #6419815 - 2002

And this is just to name a few!

See other HOD patents: Here
Here is a short sample letter to these Bozos for those of you that know Hydrogen on demand does work and want to let them know:

I understand that you are defending the interest of oil companies, but I think you should review your position, because these big boys are not in control anymore.

I'm pretty sure that you know quite well what you are doing, that is, to participate in the cover-up of the oil replacement technologies.

But, remember, there's a new sheriff in town, and he has very special friends to protect him. His name is Obama. He's gonna put and end to this insane energy suppression game, that have cost the life of how many inventors, scientists, not to mention all the Americans and foreign soldiers who died in wars for oil.

This suppression game is over. Contact these guys -- Let us know how you did

> Contact info: http://www.popular mechanics. com/marketing/ contact/

Install your own Hydrogen on Demand System with Our HHO Dry Cell Kits

Thursday, March 12, 2009

Support For hho Generator Builders

HHO EBOOKS
HHO GENERATOR PLANS

If you’ve purchased an HHO eBook through this site or another site, chances are that you will need a little support in order to optimize your hydrogen on demand system for your particular vehicle. While some people like to go it totally alone, others find comfort and inspiration in community.

That’s why I thought I would present here the top 5 support forums for those either wanting to build or having built HHO generators.

1. OUPower is one of the most technical groups regarding HHO generators. Many have started with an HHO eBook and proceeded to built a better Hydrogen on Demand system and talk about it here.
2. Fuel Saver offers a section of its forum for Brown’s Gas Systems where users share their triumphs and failures regarding building and optimizing their HHO gas generators. Fuel Savers is no doubt the leader in the Hydrogen on demand industry for EFIE devices and has done a lot to help those that are experimenting with hho gas and fuel saving devices.

3. Yahoo Water Car Group is one of the oldest if not the oldest group, which started as a place to talk about Daniel Dingel’s work. This group, however has evolved into a DIY hydrogen on demand group where people share what has worked for them in regard to HHO technology and what has not.
4. HHO Info is a relatively new group but is already very active and is dedicated to those who build HHO generators. This site has the look and feel of one of the Web’s main HHO destinations in the very near future.
5. Water Fueling is a relatively new message board that looks to be less technically oriented than the other forums. One section that some will find particularly useful, however is the Find a Local Installer category for those who want to pay a qualified mechanic to do the dirty work of installing a Hydrogen on demand system.

When one is reading an HHO eBook and then decides to build their first prototype, its good to know that support is just a mouse click away. These are the most helpful HHO communities that I have been able to find online and they have help many garage inventors get over the hump and improve their hydrogen on demand systems immensely.

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Saturday, November 29, 2008



Hi all you HHO / Hydrogen on Demand nuts.
We absolutely had to let you in on this weekend special deal for these Water4Gas type HHo Generators and install Kit.
Every one is swarming around the latest "DRY CELL" electrolysers but they draw too much amperage, require much more money and know how to install and usually are full of hazardous waste. The WATER4GAS systems are by far still the thing for the average person to install themselves with minimum tools and mechanical ability.
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Sunday, November 23, 2008

FREE HHO GENERATOR INSTALL GUIDE

We thought you would like a FREE guide to install your HHO/Hydrogen on demand system so here it is:


HHO Generator Installation Instructions
HHO Generator Safety Advice
For Basic Water4Gas Hydrogen on Demand systems

Incorrectly installing or incorrectly using Waterfuel technology may result in serious damage or body injury. Read and follow the instructions and safety precautions given here and in relevant places throughout our E- book to avoid these hazards. If you do not understand these instructions or do not like working on vehicles, have your mechanic do the installation.

It should take 20 to 30 minutes to install.Work outside, no smoking; make sure the engine is not hot.Wear goggles and gloves and only use professional tools; use common sense and general safety procedures used for automotive installations and maintenance. If you're not sure, ASK!

Yes, HHO is combustible – AFTER IT ENTERS THE ENGINE – that's the whole point. Yet your Water4Gas system does NOT store hydrogen when installed properly, so there is no fire hazard due to hydrogen storage. So again, don't let people who don't understand the system intimidate you or tell you about non-existent hazards. Waterfuel technology cools down the engine and adds safety to any car.

HHO Generator Installation
Mount the HHO Water fuel device in the engine compartment. It should be mounted flat and level, and secured is such a manner as to assure that it cannot bounce around when the vehicle hits bumps etc.

We are working on a universal mounting device, that is cost effective and as soon as it is available you can get it from our website HHO2U.com

Position the device so that it can easily be accessed and can be conveniently removed and filled with water, or cleaned, serviced or inspected.

IMPORTANT: INSTALL THE DEVICE AWAY FROM HOT AREAS as much as possible. If you're not sure where that is, Harbor Freight Tools has a digital non-contact thermometer for under $7 (item 93983-2VGA). Use this tool to locate the coolest available place in the engine area.

I cannot give you an exact number here for what is “too hot”, because there is a combination of heating factors here: weather, engine, and the electrolysis process itself. All I can tell you that in two cases the electrolyzer mostly melted and only the glass survived. In both cases this occurred as a result of

(1) too much heat radiated by the engine through the air to the electrolyzer, and

(2) too much electrolyte in the HHO generator. There is a situation called Thermal Runaway, where an increase in temperature changes the conditions (in this case the rise in electrical current) that causes a further increase in temperature - leading to a destructive result.

You can prevent this from happening by: 1. Use ONLY DISTILLED WATER. Filtered water are NOT distilled water!

2. Starting with no more than 1/8 teaspoon of baking soda, and add gradually only when you're sure no excess heat is being generated.

3. Install away from heat. If this is not possible block the engine heat as much as possible by placing a heat shield (bubble wrap covered by aluminum foil) between the electrolyzer and the engine. Leave at least 1-2” air space around the electrolyzer.

A mounting bracket can be easily fashioned from copper and/or galvanized plumber’s strap. (Not supplied.) In other cases a small rubber pad (not supplied and usually not necessary) and/or two bungee cords (not supplied) may be adequate. Rarely there may be vehicles that do not have enough space in the engine compartment to mount the device.

A possible solution is to use the area in front of the radiator. Fasten the device to the car's frame or anything other the radiator, belts or moving parts, and make sure that it does not touch the radiator. That's it for the mechanical installation and location. Now let's move for connections and supply lines. The HHO Water4Gas device is operated by vacuum pressure from your vehicle’s engine, plus 12 Volt supply from your vehicle’s electrical system.

Vacuum and the HHO Generator
Vacuum lines are supplied from the engine to various car systems, and you should best use the system that gets the highest vacuum. The idea is to Suck the HHO into a place such as the Carburetor or the Intake Manifold, where it can be automatically mixed with the existing fuel/air mixture. Connect the output to the carb/intake manifold.

CAUTION: DO NOT USE THE BRAKES VACUUM LINE. This is usually a very thick black hose that connects between the engine and the Brake Vacuum Booster (usually a large drum on the firewall on the driver side): The PCV valve* line usually makes a good connection.

Vehicles with EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection) should also be connected at or near the intake manifold. * Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve, or PCV valve, is a one-way valve that ensures continual refreshment of the air inside a gasoline internal combustion engine's crankcase.

WARNING: DO NOT SHORTEN THE VACUUM LINE between the engine intake and the jar. Keep the line (hose) at least 4 ft long. This length must be kept to enhance safety and prevent damage to the device.

A universal vacuum line T-Connector is provided as well as a length of vacuum hose to make the connection. We also supply a 1/4" T because almost all applications can be done at the manifold with this "T". A wide range of vacuum fittings is readily available at any auto parts store (plastic fittings will do for this use). Note that the Universal Vacuum T-Connector is...well, universal. Its edges are usually too small for the hose, and should be trimmed (edge cut off) with a knife.

HHO Generator and the Electrical System
The HHO generator is designed to operate on 12 Volts. Refer to the wiring diagram below. If you’re not sure consult your auto mechanic (electric), or contact us for help.

1. Connect the black terminal of the device to the negative terminal of the vehicle’s battery, using the wire WITHOUT FUSE (black wire). If the battery is too far, connect it to the firewall or extend the wire all the way to the battery.

2. Identify a point in your vehicle’s electrical system which has a 12 Volts (positive) present ONLY WHEN THE ENGINE IS ON (Position 2 of the Ignition Switch), such as the starter solenoid, window wiper motor, or similar circuit.

3. Turn the switch off and take out the key. Connect positive (12 Volts) to the red terminal of the device, using the FUSED wire supplied (red), to the point you’ve identified above.

4. To protect the wiring from long term damage, you can now put the newly installed wires into what's called “split flex tubing”. You can find it in all major hardware stores such as Ace, Home Depot. Don't buy it online ($5 +S&H) because in the shop it's only 99 cents for 10 ft.

NOTES:In most newer vehicles the fuses are located in a box, in the engine compartment. I just plug the wire into the fuse holder and reinsert the fuse. Usually it is a 10 Amp or 15 Amp ignition circuit, that I use. In some older cars where there was no fuse box to connect to, the wiper motor was found most useful as a supply point. I just splice into the SWITCHED 12 Volts and it works well. ? In some cars the electrical system may be in reverse (RED wire to the body of the car, or to the battery itself). If it gets confusing, consult an auto electrician who is familiar with your specific model.

Final Steps of HHO Generator Setup.
Fill the jar with DISTILLED WATER, leaving 1” of free space at the top. Add 1/8 teaspoon of Electrolyte (pure Baking Soda) to the 32oz HHO Generator.

Close the jar. HHO Units should draw about 2 AMPS of power. More Baking Soda may be added but, make sure the units operate cool and don't overheat. Running the units too hot will create steam and that will cause a drop in mileage and engine performance.
Test Run Your HHO Generator
1. Start with NO electricity, by taking out the fuse or leaving one of the terminals disconnected (make sure it doesn't touch metal parts of the car to prevent fuse blowout).

2. Turn the Vacuum Adjustment Valve (sometimes called “Bubbler Cap” or just “Bubbler”) fully CLOCKWISE. Then turn it half-turn COUNTER-CLOCKWISE.

3. Turn the engine and watch the bubbling action coming out of the lower end of the thin tubing inside the device (here by the way is the great advantage of having a strong glass jar instead of metal or non clear plastic – total transparency and visibility!) Gradually turn the Vacuum Adjustment Valve and watch the bubbling action in the jar. Adjust the valve until there is a small amount of bubbling action.

4. Turn off the engine.

5. Connect the electricity by putting the fuse on and making sure all connections are tight (hand force only).

6. Start the engine again and watch the electrolyzing action between the spiral electrodes. A yellowish gas (HHO) will start forming and flow toward the top of the jar.

7. Within a short time (roughly 30 seconds), you will notice that the engine starts to sound quite differently. It will sound smoother and quieter. Its RPM may be unstable for a couple minutes. This is normal – the HHO is starting to change the combustion cycle and cancels the pinging – and the engine is now adjusting to the changes.

Congratulations! Your HHO Generator system is now ready to go! Enjoy it To learn more about HHO Generator installation, click here. Or to purchase an HHO Generator, or other Hydrogen on Demand stuff visit our website HHO2U.

Thursday, July 31, 2008

Water electrolysis gives you HHO gas

Oxyhydrogen ( HHO ) is a mixture of hydrogen (H2) and oxygen (O2) gases, typically in a 2:1 molar ratio, the same proportion as water. This gaseous mixture has been used for torches for the processing of refractory materials for quite some time.

A pure stoichiometric mixture is most easily obtained by water electrolysis, which uses an electric current to dissociate the water molecules:

electrolysis: 2 H2O → 2 H2 + O2
combustion: 2 H2 + O2 → 2 H2O

Scientist have thought that the energy required to generate the oxyhydrogen always exceeds the energy released by combustion .
That is not the case anymore, at least when it comes to applying the simple technology of an HHo or hydrogen on demand system to your daily driven vehicle.
With more people applying hydrogen on demand systems (HHO) to their cars and trucks every day we rack up more and more records of proven gains in mileage per gallon of gas. For proven results Click Here
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Electrolysis of water

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Electrolysis of water is the decomposition of water (H2O) into oxygen (O2) and hydrogen gas (H2) due to an electric current being passed through the water. This electrolytic process is used in some industrial applications when hydrogen is needed.

An electrical power source is connected to two electrodes, or two plates, (typically made from some inert metal such as platinum or stainless steel) which are placed in the water. Hydrogen will appear at the cathode (the negatively charged electrode, where electrons are pumped into the water), and oxygen will appear at the anode (the positively charged electrode). The generated amount of hydrogen is twice the amount of oxygen, and both are proportional to the total electrical charge that was sent through the water.

Electrolysis of pure water is very slow, and can only occur due to the self-ionization of water. Pure water has an electrical conductivity about one millionth that of seawater. It is sped up dramatically by adding an electrolyte (such as a salt, an acid or a base).

Historically, the first known electrolysis of water was done by William Nicholson and Anthony Carlisle in about 1800.
Why are we not using this simple technology in 2008 ??